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Saturday, September 03, 2005

Fluorescing dogfish

NOAA Ocean Explorer seems to be making The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou come true: they've found a fluorescent spotted shark. Actually, it's a chain dogfish, a very pretty animal, that also happens to glow when illuminated with a blue light.

chain dogfishchain dogfish

Fluorescing fish is most likely not a useful adaptation, but only an accidental byproduct of a common property of many molecules. Fluorescence is not a process that generates light. Instead, molecules absorb a photon—this is the tricky part, where the molecule must be resilient enough to absorb the energy of light and distribute it within its bonds in such a way that the molecule is not destroyed by the event—and then re-emit it a minute fraction of a second later. A little energy is lost in the process so the re-emitted light has a lower energy, or longer wavelength. The chain dogfish was illuminated with blue light, and then glowed at a longer, lower energy blue-green wavelength.

Black-light posters work the same way. Shine a purplish (short wavelength) illuminator on them, and the pigments absorb the short wavelength light and re-emit it in the longer yellow-green spectrum. It looks particularly vivid to us because our eyes are relatively poor at detecting violets and blues, but have a peak of sensitivity in the yellow green.

Some dishwashing detergents pull a similar trick. When they say they get clothes "whiter than white", they actually do: they load up the clothes with fluorescent compounds that reflect the shorter wavelengths present in the broad spectrum lighting we use in our homes, and translate it into wavelengths our eyes see more easily, adding a subtle glow.

But back to the dogfish—fluorescing is probably not at all useful to a deep-dwelling shark. Conceivably, it could make colors more vivid if the shark were illuminated, but if it's living where it is normally dark, it's going to have no effect at all. Similarly, my zebrafish embryos are loaded with yolk proteins that can fluoresce spectacularly, but it's not for visual effect—it's because they contain complex carbon compounds with lots of double bonds that make them capable of absorbing photons.

It is a useful property that the divers can use to scan for interesting organisms, and there's a good reason for outfitting a submersible with filtered illuminators. People who study scorpions use the same trick—walk around the desert at night with a UV light source, and the scorpions all light up like glow-in-the-dark halloween decorations.


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Comments:
#38641: — 09/03  at  06:28 PM
Some dishwashing detergents pull a similar trick. When they say they get clothes "whiter than white", they actually do...


So that's how it's done over there in the midwest?



#38646: coturnix — 09/03  at  07:37 PM
I'll try to do the laundry with a dishwashing soap next time.



#38656: — 09/03  at  10:18 PM
Obviously, this dogfish must be destroyed. I don't know how yet, maybe with dynamite.

Where's my red knit cap?



#38674: Ron Sullivan — 09/04  at  09:21 AM
Dang, Paul, get those clothes out of the dishwasher! Except the gimme caps, you can leave those in.

Tsk. Can't trust men around the domestic appliances. What would happen if we turned them loose with (gasp) computers???!

Cool about the sharks tho'. I'm told that the scorpion hunters learned the blacklight trick from uranium prospectors. True?



#38677: — 09/04  at  09:53 AM
PZ Meyers wrote:

Fluorescing fish is most likely not a useful adaptation, but only an accidental byproduct of a common property of many molecules.


I wonder if a IDer would look at this fish and simply
add it to the list of "stuff too complex to arise
from chance". The fluorescing stuff only *appears*
to be the result of "intervention". Pseudomonas
aeruginosa
is fluorescent as well...



's avatar #38680: Chris Clarke — 09/04  at  10:23 AM
Am I too late to make fun of the dishwashing detergent thing?

If God didn’t want us to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?



#38683: — 09/04  at  10:52 AM
CC - Yes.

But there is still time to point out that the fluorescence-thing would actually make the fabric brighter yellow. To increase percieved whiteness you have to add more light in the blue-violet range. You could do that with UV-to-blue fluorescence, but most detergents simply add a blue dye.

Also, in most fluorescent chemicals the color changes not because energy is lost but because one absorbed high-energy photon causes several lower-energy photons to be emitted.



#38686: — 09/04  at  10:59 AM
Be sure to look around that NOAA site for other cool stuff, like this fluorescent jellyfish:



#38687: — 09/04  at  11:02 AM
Compare this artificial jellyfish:

with the real thing:



#38688: — 09/04  at  11:03 AM
Now that I've discovered how to do images, there's no stopping me!



#38702: — 09/04  at  01:36 PM
Those flourescent compounds are also in laundry detergent (known as stilbene-based brighteners), and work the same way to make those whites seem extra white. Interestingly, stilbene brighteners will bind to any long chain sugar, including chitin... we used to use them to illuminate the midgut sac of caterpillars, and in sufficiently high quantities they will actually interfere with the sacs assembly, causing the caterpillar severe digestive problems. This little side-effect on chitin assembly is also used to enhance the effect of insect viruses which generally have to be eaten... so if you are walking through the woods with a UV lamp and see little blue insect poops, you know they've been spraying.....



#38735: — 09/04  at  05:19 PM
Fluorescing fish is most likely not a useful adaptation, but only an accidental byproduct of a common property of many molecules.


Of course it's a useful adaptation. Every single male dogfish looking at this one that glows is thinking, "man! That is so sweet! I wish I could do that!" while the women are swooning. Glowing is just plain cool, and all the fish know it. Definite bonus.



#38740: — 09/04  at  06:16 PM
Also our teeth and nails shine in UV.

Police plays with new powerful UV-flashlight in desert. Bandits in cave smile at dumb policemen who don't seem to have proper flashlights. Policemen shout "Ahaa! We saw youuu! You exposed your teeth.." ;)



#39068: — 09/06  at  01:10 PM
Also, in most fluorescent chemicals the color changes not because energy is lost but because one absorbed high-energy photon causes several lower-energy photons to be emitted.


Sorry, since this is a science blog, I couldn't let this one go. A fluorescent event is the result of the absorbance of one photon (or, in special cases, multiple photons simultaneously) and the release of one lower energy photon, with the remaining energy usually converted to vibrational energy. Unless, of course, there has been some exciting breakthrough in quantum transitions that I am unaware of.



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