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Wednesday, January 11, 2006

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Philosophers, are you furious yet?

Since biologists have proven intractable, the next direction the IDists are going to take is to target other spots in the curriculum. Here's the comment that leapt out at me in an article on California creationism.

At a special meeting of the El Tejon Unified School District on Jan. 1, at which the board approved the new course, "Philosophy of Design," school Supt. John W. Wight said that he had consulted the school district's attorneys and that they "had told him that as long as the course was called 'philosophy,' " it could pass legal muster, according to the lawsuit.

Oh. So "philosophy" is the new dumping ground, the subject with no serious content, the one where you can safely present any ol' garbage and it still fits? Like the colloquial definition of "theory" (any guess), I suppose the new definition of "philosophy" is "idiots babbling".

Any doubts that this is a serious course in philosophy are dispelled by the description.

Philosophy of Intelligent Design: "This class will take a close look at evolution as a theory and will discuss the scientific, biological, and Biblical aspects that suggest why Darwin's philosophy is not rock solid. This class will discuss Intelligent Design as an alternative response to evolution. Topics that wlll be covered are the age of the earth, a world wide flood, dinosaurs, pre-human fossils, dating methods, DNA, radioisotopes, and geological evidence. Physical and chemical evidence will be presented suggesting the earth is thousands of years old, not billions. The class will include lecture discussions, guest speakers, and videos. The class grade will be based on a position paper in which students will support or refute the theory of evolution."

How about the instructor's qualifications?

Name: Mrs. Sharon Lemburg
Department: Special Education
Brief Biography: B. A. Degree in Physical Education, Social Science: with emphasis in Sociology, Special Education
Class Description: Special Education
Club Advisor or Coach? Soccer and Softball

And then there's how the course will be taught…

Board members recommended changes to the original course plan, which included 24 videos - 19 of them supporting intelligent design. They also voiced concern over scientific issues in the class, such as the laws of thermodynamics and how fossil dating works.

One weblog has a complete list of the videos and speakers, and there is also an annotated breakdown of the course syllabus by one of the listed speakers for evolution (he was not asked nor did he consent; the other one who is, well, dead…and wasn't it a little presumptuous of the teacher to expect to get a Nobelist to drop in to her little school?) It's worse than you might think: 19 are creationist videos, 1 is about catastrophism, and the remaining four are of mysterious content.

So we have here a course "taught" by a soccer coach and special ed teacher who has no training in either science or philosophy, which will consist of day after day of the teacher queuing up creationist videos (I assume she is capable of running a VCR, but there is probably an A/V department in the school to help her if not), and she's going to teach the kids the evidence that the earth is ten thousand years old.

It's a good thing that the school district is being sued over this course.

With one exception, the suit asserts, "the course relies exclusively on videos that advocate religious perspectives and present religious theories as scientific ones — and because the teacher has no scientific training, students are not provided with any critical analysis of the presentation."

One of the parents, Kenneth Hurst, who has a doctorate in geology and is a scientist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Cañada Flintridge, said in court papers that the class "conflicts with my beliefs as a scientist. I believe this class undermines the sound scientific principles taught in Frazier Mountain High School's biology curriculum and is structured in a way that deprives my children of the opportunity to be presented with an objective education that would aid the development of their critical thinking skills."

Hurst, who has children in 10th and 12th grades, said the class also interfered with his personal religious views as a Quaker and "reflects a preference for fundamentalist Christianity over all other religious and scientific viewpoints."

That represents reasonable cause, but I think they're missing the most important justification of them all: we ought to have some expectation of competence and some standards of quality in our public school education. This course fails to meet even Sunday School standards of rigor. The school board rushed to have a meeting about it when parents complained about the conflict between religion and state, but they weren't doing their job when they initially approved it—I would be questioning what other dreck they've allowed to slide by.


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Comments:
#57407: — 01/11  at  08:50 AM
I don't know what they teach in philosophy classes, but don't they ponder these kinds of questions about the origins of the universe already?



#57408: — 01/11  at  08:56 AM
I have no problem with ID being in a philosophy or religion course. But I have often worried about how that would be executed...as in, would it not be possible for a teacher to just say "well, this is a comparative religion course BUT we're going to talk about the science of ID and why evolution is unscientific."

I guess I have my answer.



#57409: — 01/11  at  09:02 AM
Evidence is mounting that IDists are just not too bright - they seem to think that changing a word is all that matters in the debate over the subject. Changing "creation" to "intelligent design" did not remove the religious content of the concept, and changing "science" to "philosophy" does not remove the science (however misrepresented and misunderstood that science is) from the class. What boggles my little mind is that they haven't learned this from the Dover ID trial results that the people who matter in the debate - scientists and judges - will in fact look at the content of the class and not the title in deciding what the subject actually is.

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#57414: — 01/11  at  09:23 AM
I wonder how easy it would be to get an actual critical thinking or philosophy of science course approved for high school students. How could someone object to students learning to differentiate good ideas from bad ones?



#57415: Palmer — 01/11  at  09:26 AM
This is exactly why we need Darwin's Rottweiler and people like him. I can't believe the interviewer from Discover painted Dawkins as being overly "aggressive". You've got to fight Ussher's Bulldogs with fire.



#57416: BronzeDog — 01/11  at  09:27 AM
I suspect my brother'll have a lot to say about this. He's got a real philosophy degree, and he's fond of going on anti-ID rants.

For trexmaster: As my brother put it, philosophy classes are essentially about learning how to think. (Critically.) They deal with logical fallacies, untangling paradoxes, and all that good stuff. They aren't supposed to be some hippy-trippy newage class where they pretend to contemplate zen koans.



#57419: — 01/11  at  09:30 AM
As Ed Brayton points out, one of the supposed speakers - Francis Krich (sic) - is dead, and another - Hurst - hadn't agreed to be a speaker and wouldn't have if asked. As I've said before, it's a good thing creationists are so stupid.



's avatar #57422: moioci — 01/11  at  09:37 AM
While I'm not opposed to discussion of Paleyism in a philosophical context, when they bring in scientific and biblical aspects of ID "theory", they've crossed the line. IMHO.



#57426: — 01/11  at  09:46 AM
I'm a PhD student/TA and I'd certainly consider bringing up ID in an intro to phil of sci or intro to critical thinking/logic. Insofar, that is, as it can be torn into as a wholesale violation of basic restrictions on (respectively) science and argument. (Note that I didn't say "good": I suspect that very few philosophical accounts of science would qualify ID as science at all, and I also suspect that very few philosophical accounts of arguments would qualify IDiots' nonsense as arguments at all.) The problem, of course, is that I'm Canadian and this issue has little to no traction here. So, I'd probably end up talking about alternative "medicine" for phil of sci, and something political in critical thinking/logic.



#57427: mangala — 01/11  at  09:47 AM
"I wonder how easy it would be to get an actual critical thinking or philosophy of science course approved for high school students. How could someone object to students learning to differentiate good ideas from bad ones?"

My high school had a philosophy of science class - I don't think that ID/evolution ever came up in it at the time (although I'm sure it does now!) - but the first assignment was to find the wonkiest tabloid lunacy we could find and debunk it, in terms of falsifiability, parsimony, etc.

It was a fun class. (And I'd love to hear what the teacher had to say about ID, given his snarky style and disgust with the non-scientific.)



#57428: — 01/11  at  09:50 AM
NPR ran a piece about this on Morning Edition. Casey Luskin got tons of air time. It was as if he filed the segment himself. Very terrible reporting.



#57429: — 01/11  at  09:51 AM
ADR, I'm reminded of the proximate cause of the fall of stockwell "doris" day....



#57434: — 01/11  at  10:04 AM
NPR now stands for "Neutered Public Relations" since the Republicans took it over. I now think the canning of Bob Edwards was political, as he would not have stood for such insipid "reporting" as Luskin's.



#57435: — 01/11  at  10:05 AM
As a philosophy, yeah, I'm furious.

This doesn't sound like a philosophy class, though. It sounds like a science class using bad data to prove a bullshit conclusion.

PZ, as I'm sure you know, we philosophers have the same problem with "philosophy" that you have with "theory." People tend to think that "philosophy" means "my opinion" just as they think "theory" means the same (as opposed to, in both cases, the terms implying specific methodologies). So the class title really just says

"My opinion about intelligent design"



#57436: rob loftis — 01/11  at  10:06 AM
I'm a philosopher, and I teach sections on either the argument from design or creationism almost every semester. Of course, my classes look nothing like this bozo's. In my intro class I teach Hume's Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion, in which one character proposes the argument from design and another refutes it. (And the refutation doesn't rely on Darwin, who hadn't even been born yet.) I also teach Boethius and the medieval a priori proofs of the existence of God. I never express my views on the existence of God. With Hume in the mix, I don't have to.

I also teach creationism in lower level philosophy of science classes, under the heading "marginal science," alongside astrology, alternative medicine, UFOology, etc.

So the problem with Lemburg's class isn't that it teaches ID theory, but that it is taught by an unqualified, incompetant, partisan.



#57437: — 01/11  at  10:09 AM

Palmer wrote:

This is exactly why we need Darwin's Rottweiler and people like him. I can't believe the interviewer from Discover painted Dawkins as being overly "aggressive". You've got to fight Ussher's Bulldogs with fire.


In the case of the Discovery Institute, though, it's more like Paley's Poodles...



#57438: — 01/11  at  10:09 AM
It should be noted that the instructor for the course, who proposed it, is, besides being the girl's soccer team coach and phys ed instructor, is the wife of the pastor at the local Assembly of God church. Guess where she's getting her syllabus?



#57441: — 01/11  at  10:15 AM
My 7yo realized that Mendeleyev organized the periodic table during the American Civil War. (Sterling tends to date things by wars, which makes him rather alarming company in an art museum.) "You know mommy, I know there are lots of reasons for the Civil War. I don't know if there was any other way we could have solved these problems. But I wonder all the time and energy we spend fighting each other. How many better things could we be discovering if we weren't always fighting?"

This is my frustration with the whole ID, fundamentalist patriarchal idiocy: How much time do we have to waste arguing, and rebutting and staying vigilant against travesties such as this. I know I have other things I'd rather be doing, don't they?



#57449: — 01/11  at  10:43 AM
I live outside the U.S. and have most of my life even though I'm an American citizen. I'm considering a move to the States, almost certainly to a big city, possibly Seattle. I'm the father of two young children. If i live in a big city outside of the south, am I going to have to be constantly on the defensive about having my children taught nonsense (intelligent design, etc) in class? This isn't a rhetorical question and I'd be interested in hearing answers.



#57453: — 01/11  at  10:51 AM
I think that the teacher's background in Special Education will come in very handy while teaching the morons who decide to take this course.



#57455: — 01/11  at  10:52 AM
Brook, unfortunately the fundie agenda knows no bounds, and part of their sweeping agenda is to save us different-believers, because anyone who doesn't fit into their narrow view of things is doomed to hell, so in reality they're really trying very hard to do us a favor and we should be appreciative and receptive to their efforts, which is why they're never going to stop. You see, in their world view, nothing is more important than saving souls, and the only way we're going to be saved is if we believe exactly the same things they do. As the brother of a fundie (we live on different continents fortunately)I know their mindset, and i can safely answer your question and say that no, there is nothing else they would rather be doing. This is their raison d'etre.



#57457: MAJeff — 01/11  at  10:54 AM
I'm a sociologist and furious--that her professors would allow her to graduate with that major having learned absolutely no sociology. Here's a bit of what I wrote over at Ed Brayton's place:

Were she to take an honest sociological look at the "philosophy" of ID, she would have to start with the basic proposition from the soc. of knowledge that ideas are produced and sponsored by social actors. The first question should then be, which social actors are putting forth the "theory of ID," and in which social fields are they embedded? Had she received any decent sociological training, she'd be certainly notice that this "controversy" is completely the result of political actors trying to create an issue. A scientific controversy? Not so much.

She's not qualified to teach philosophy. If she were to stay within her supposed field of study, she'd be asking completely different questions. This woman's professor's should be ashamed.



#57460: — 01/11  at  11:03 AM
On a somewhat related note, did anyone watch the Frontline (PBS) miniseries, "Country Boys" which is playing this week (and is free to watch online on the pbs.org web site). They had some segments in a science class in rural Kentucky and the teacher was saying things like "Evolution says we came from monkeys. I don't think Jesus Christ was a monkey, do you?"

It was a private school, but still it was a little painful to watch. It seemed like the teacher was trying to be somewhat dutiful to teach the state standards but she was unable to hide her surety that the Christian bible was the true account.

"Country Boys" was a pretty good watch; the conclusion is tonight.



#57461: rob loftis — 01/11  at  11:03 AM
Gracchus: In a place like Seattle, you should find yourself surrounded by mostly like minded folks. There will be creationists, but they won't own the school board.



#57466: Natasha Yar-Routh — 01/11  at  11:19 AM
My local high school alas. We have way too many churches with way too much influence for a bunch of small mountain towns IMHO. Luckily our local paper has been all over this for the last two weeks with very good well written and very critical articles. The IDiots tried to slip one through and got caught out this time.



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